Версія даної теми для друку

Автор: nikelong Feb 11 2011, 14:10

http://distributed.org.ua/forum/index.php?showtopic=4942



Follow this link to switsh Your forum's language to English :
http://distributed.org.ua/forum/index.php?s=&setlanguage=1&langid=en&act=idx&cal_id=

Автор: trigggl Feb 13 2011, 16:08

After some liberal use of Translate Google, I managed to sign up and log in.

Anyways, hello from SETI.USA.

I have a question about the "Top Participants" at Slinky (SLinCA).

I show up when selecting RAC, but not when selecting Total Credit. Are my stats being exported? Anyone know? Anyone else having a problem?

Автор: Death Feb 13 2011, 23:04

hi ))

welcome to SLinCA forum

I wonder that slinca admin will come here after his conference and tell you more..

Автор: zombie67 Feb 15 2011, 01:42

Hello! Glad to see a new project!

Автор: nikelong Feb 15 2011, 01:44

Hello Zombie!
Glad to see you in our forum!

Автор: zombie67 Feb 15 2011, 01:50

Thanks again for all the help with my password!

Автор: zombie67 Feb 15 2011, 03:25

Questions:

1) Will task checkpointing be implemented?

2) Any chance there will be an app for OSX or GPUs?

Автор: Death Feb 15 2011, 11:33

looks like now checkpoints is doing well

had to ask admin about osx, I suppose they have no macs, so if one compile it they will be avail

Автор: nikelong Feb 15 2011, 12:02

Now i crunch 1 WU 3:40...3:50 h on coreDuo 1,83 ghz and ~1:30 h on phenom X4 3.4 ghz.

Checkpoints have ceased to be highly important...

Автор: Rilian Feb 15 2011, 12:13

zombie67, hello, welcome to our forums

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Feb 15 2011, 12:18

You are welcome!
In any case (of any problem) you can write here (experts here are very amiable and proficient) or directly to me (as in the case with your password).
I can read and reply every business day (except when I am on business trip). Cheers!

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Feb 15 2011, 12:36

Checkpointing is not stable yet (for all input parameters and regimes) and temporarily tasks will be cut to short-time (2-3 hours) portions only.
GPU clients is under development and local testing.

The 1st priority for us is to provide stability of long-time jobs with more complicated regimes of simulation.
The 2nd priority is to prepare wiki-description and feedback -> regular reports on current results.

Автор: KSMarksPsych Feb 16 2011, 02:01

I need some help getting my password reset. I'm on of those in the BOINC Wide Teams DB. I tried going through the standard "forgot my password" route, but it didn't work. I don't know if the mail server isn't set up or what.... It's not in spam (incidentally, gmail marked the validation email from these boards as spam).

My user name at the project is KSMarksPsych and the email is kathryn.boinc (doggy) gmail.com.

Many thanks

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Feb 16 2011, 15:35

Please, go to http://dg.imp.kiev.ua/slinca/get_passwd.php and use the 2nd option:

"2) If you forgot your account's email address, or you can't receive email there:"

In the field "Log in with authenticator" use your authenticator.
If you cannot find it, accoding to instructions, then check you mail - I have send it to you on your GMAIL address.

Cheers!

Автор: zombie67 Feb 21 2011, 18:58

Server down?

Автор: pvtt Feb 21 2011, 19:04

Yes

sorry
My English is very bad

Автор: Death Feb 21 2011, 19:27

your "yes" was perfect )))))

Автор: Rilian Feb 21 2011, 22:36

Автор: Chris Duke Feb 22 2011, 03:58

My account was also created through BOINCwide Teams and having to do the normal password reset route. I am also not receiving email through gmail.

User name is: Chris Duke
Email for Account: duke523 (at) gamil.com

Thanks in advance.

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Feb 22 2011, 09:47

Yes-2.
Actually, it was caused by tests of server hardware and ... result is that we need to upgrade it for stable work of >20000 workunits, or decrease this number.
We selected the 1st option and server hardware will be upgraded during this week with a short interruption, but after our special announcement.
Now it should work normally.
Best regards!

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Feb 22 2011, 10:29

Please, go to http://dg.imp.kiev.ua/slinca/get_passwd.php and use the 2nd option:

"2) If you forgot your account's email address, or you can't receive email there:"

In the field "Log in with authenticator" use your authenticator.
If you cannot find it, accoding to instructions, then check you mail - I will send it to you on your GMAIL address right now.

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Feb 22 2011, 10:40

Please, go to http://dg.imp.kiev.ua/slinca/get_passwd.php and use the 2nd option:

"2) If you forgot your account's email address, or you can't receive email there:"

In the field "Log in with authenticator" use your authenticator.
If you cannot find it, accoding to instructions, then check you mail - I will send it to you on your GMAIL address right now.

Автор: Rilian Feb 22 2011, 13:08

Yuri, please see http://boincstats.com/forum/forum_thread.php?id=6210

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Feb 22 2011, 13:23

Please, go to page and use the 2nd option:

"2) If you forgot your account's email address, or you can't receive email there:"

In the field "Log in with authenticator" use your authenticator.
If you cannot find it, accoding to instructions, then check you mail - I have send it to you on your GMAIL address.

Cheers!

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Feb 22 2011, 13:29

OK, thanks, I'll reply to them with explanations.

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Feb 22 2011, 13:39

Please, go to http://dg.imp.kiev.ua/slinca/get_passwd.php and use the 2nd option:

"2) If you forgot your account's email address, or you can't receive email there:"

In the field "Log in with authenticator" use your authenticator.
If you cannot find it, accoding to instructions, then check you mail - I have send it to you on your GMAIL address.

Автор: zombie67 Feb 24 2011, 03:53

Looks like the server is down again.

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Feb 24 2011, 11:41

I'll check, it seems to be that our server cannot operate such a huge volume of results and database is down sometimes.
That is why we need to make its upgrade in the next days.
Thanks!

Автор: laurenu2 Feb 27 2011, 00:18

I think your bandwidth need a bit of a upgrade to
I have a couple of Gigabytes of files that are
trying to push through to you with little Luck

And that Figure my double by tomorrow

Автор: zombie67 Feb 27 2011, 09:46

File size is *HUGE* for a BOINC project. The BOINC server code does have a built in compress/decompress feature for uploads and downloads. It just needs to be turned on (if it isn't already). Thanks!

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Feb 27 2011, 12:05

laurenu2, zombie67,
you are right, we are working on imporvement of master-part of application to strip off it from
additional work and decrease size of files (to avoid bottlenecks in data transfer).
Thanks to you for your advices and care!

Автор: Death Feb 27 2011, 21:01

laurenu2, hi buddy.

nice 2 c u here.

Автор: laurenu2 Feb 28 2011, 00:50

Ya I heard they wanted someone to stress test there Project
I Figured I was best suited to do that .
But I was only able to point about 300 + Ghz of CPU power here before it crashed out

SLinCA-Yuri
Do you have a time frame as to when your upload service will be restored
As I said I have a few Gigs of WU's waiting to be send you

Автор: laurenu2 Feb 28 2011, 02:11

Oh Ya who turned me into a Red 2 legged Unicorn / Octopus
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3f38edd707cc149374b17e7d4af3850c?default=monsterid&size=120

Or is this a default setting

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Feb 28 2011, 09:57

Dear All,

thanks for your advices and care!

SERVER STATUS: Server hardware will be upgraded today.
February 28, 2011, 07:45 GMT
For the further stable scaling-up we will upgrade our project server hardware today (28 February, 2011) with a short interruption from 10:00 GMT to 12:00 GMT. Then all inprogress workunits will be accepted, and the limited number of unsent workunits will be available.

Автор: Rilian Feb 28 2011, 11:06

yes, everyone gets some cool random avatar until upload own

Автор: laurenu2 Mar 1 2011, 09:20

Nice avatars Can I get one or two to Go
Or did you get Hacked

Автор: Rilian Mar 1 2011, 10:33

laurenu2, that's standard Remmer's pack avatars

Автор: Death Mar 1 2011, 11:03

laurenu2, huh you call this stress test? better call it "all your wu are belong 2 me"

like when eon was not boinc, and you grabbed all the wus by urself... you little greedy projects-killer )))))

Автор: laurenu2 Mar 1 2011, 23:46

Now Now Flattery will get you every where
And I want to point out it was not my fault I was just doing what I do best

And Yippee I took First place here

Автор: laurenu2 Mar 2 2011, 07:35

They are?
I have never seen Avatars with shaking naked breasts for a DCing Fourm
And since I am a Guy can I use a Male striper for my Avatar Shaking his

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Mar 4 2011, 15:55

During the following 5 days (4-8 March) we foresee some potential problems with a stable power supply.
That is why, we apologize in advance, if some unpredictable problems will appear due to temporal inaccessibility of SLinCA project server.
Despite all these hardships, by our estimations we will finish the next half-year programme of calculations ... during the next week (and major upgrade of application will be made)!
Thanks to all for your tremendous support!

Автор: zombie67 Mar 15 2011, 03:23

I see there were new apps released today. But I don't see any news about them on the front page. Can we please get an update? What's new?

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Mar 15 2011, 10:06

The related news release is under construction now. Thanks for your attention!

Автор: zombie67 Mar 25 2011, 03:57

I searched the wiki, but didn't find any details on the latest changes.

I did find this:



Would it be possible to get estimates timelines for checkpointing, and GPU support?

Thanks!

Автор: zombie67 Apr 5 2011, 20:48

How long should tasks with the new app run? I reset my windows machines this AM, per instructions. And the new tasks have been running for more than 4 hours now. Is this okay? Or a problem?

Автор: Death Apr 5 2011, 22:17

looks like a problem.

as Yuri mention, you'd check in taskmanager that no lodci* tasks left in memory before resetting the project. if they keep running, project can't update them.

Автор: zombie67 Apr 5 2011, 22:20

Okay. I will abort the tasks and set to no new work. I will allow new tasks once we are told the problem has been fixed.

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Apr 6 2011, 08:25

Dear zombie67, Alexiz and Death, and all other SLinCA-users,
thanks for your feedback!

It seems to be that first versions of application 'lodci' were not configured properly (even after updating their binaries),
and it is not easy to clean user machine and client BOINC Manager from the initial settings of faulty versions
(the authors of project can do this manually on their own machines, but it is not appropriate for all users).
That is why we decided to eliminate conflicting versions 'lodci16v4' and 'lodci32v4',
despite some unfinished results will be lost (it is not big loss for us, but unstable work is much bigger headache for users).
Afterwhile we will reconfigure and restart them again.

All application requirements are listed at http://dg.imp.kiev.ua/slinca/apps.php and in the column of 'Application' in tab 'Tasks' of your BOINC Manager.
If the correspondent version of 'lodci*'-application run more than runtime mentioned there, then it could be faulty, because chronometry is linear now.
Besides, checkpointing should work also, please check this.

Thanks to 'Alexis Kravtchenko' and 'Sirchyk' for your detailed reports!
Thanks to 're_SET', 'pvtt', 'zombie67', and 'Death' for your care!

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Apr 11 2011, 10:11

Our project Desktop Grid (DG) is connected to global Service Grid (SG) now!
April 11, 2011, 06:28 GMT
We are glad to announce that SLinCA@Home became the part of a global distributed computation infrastructure at production level thanks to the successful collaboration in the frame of the EU funded DEGISCO project and the EDGeS 3G Bridge technology from MTA SZTAKI. With this step, our scientific applications at SLinCA@Home Desktop Grid are executed now not only on the volunteers' home computers equipped by BOINC, but also on servers and clusters of Service Grid sites operated by HPC and Grid centers world-wide, which joined the International Desktop Grid Federation and offer capacities to numerous Desktop Grids.

The specificity of the situation: as it is known, SG was designed for high performance computing (HPC) and Grid-centers around the world and not equipped with BOINC managers!
In simple words this very complex interaction looks like channelling the workunits from SLinCA@Home DG to the SG-network (as a virtual volunteer participant), where the workunits automatically reconfigures for Linux-machines and the rules of SG, and then run on free (idle) SG resources.
http://dg.imp.kiev.ua/slinca/hosts_user.php?userid=1819

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Apr 13 2011, 08:51

Temporary withdrawal of large (> 1GB for RAM) tasks!

During the last weekend it has become clear that the big workunits (~ 2GB for RAM) in our BOINC-project were run in a very inefficient way:
- we obtained only 60 positive results from> 2000 tasks sent and they were from from Linux-machines only;
- they required large resources when the number of large workunits per machine was > 1 with blocking the RAM;
- they create bottleneck and do not allow small workunits to move to those volunteers who have less powerful machines.

Reasons?

Previous ones are as follows:
- incorrect temporary memory addressing for > 2GB in our clients for Windows,
- conflicts with system calls in Win 64-bit systems (this is fixed).
So we decided to cancel and return to them after more effective optimization and elimination of such bugs.

But we are grateful to those who managed to perform successfully these large workunits - they will be used by us!

Many thanks to re_SET, varador, Saenger, zombie67, DEATH, and many others who sent us their reports, observations and suggestions!
These conclusions and corrections have become possible only due to your help!

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Apr 14 2011, 07:52

Today outline of materials science applications will be given in Vilnius (Lithuania) at EGI User Forum 2011.

The seventh IDGF tutorial is co-located with the http://uf2011.egi.eu.
Review will be given for our materials science applications used in G.V.Kurdyumov Institute for Metal Physics of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine and ported to distributed computing environment on the basis of Desktop Grids technology in SLinCA@Home project.
They include:
(1) Monte Carlo (MC) simulation of defects in metals;
(2) image and video processing by MATLAB;
(3) molecular dynamics simulation by LAMMPS for research of defect aggregation in metal nanocrystals.
Please, see the http://desktopgridfederation.org/programme7 and get your http://desktopgridfederation.org/virtual-visitor-bag.

Cheers!

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Apr 18 2011, 12:29

The updated versions appeared and 2x-credits were added for the long faulty workunits from the experimental 'lodci12x128'-version.
April 18, 2011, 10:50 GMT
The new updated versions of 'lodci'-application appear permanently after the planned upgrades and exclusion of configuration errors. The last error was related with misprint in configuration file of 'lodci12x128'-version.
Thanks to 'Saenger' and 'varador' for their reports!
'lodci12x128' was stopped and it will be started after re-configuration.
All participants will get renumeration credits that are equivalent to running the faulty workunits.
<--- this Soviet-style ink stamp means: "it was paid"

The project changes every day, and errors will appear constantly...
Therefore it is important to find them sooner than they cause any damage or cause your computers work in idle mode.
It is worth to note that most errors (> 80%) were found firstly by volunteers (ie by you).
We try to be open and report honestly to community about any faults that can appear in our project.
Thank you for your support!

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Apr 22 2011, 09:17

SERVER STATUS: Double-credits were awarded to all users, who successfully finished our test tasks, but had not got credits.
April 22, 2011, 07:50 GMT
Yesterday all participants, who successfully have finished our test tasks, but had not got any credits for them (because of 'Client error' status during tests), obtained double-credits. They are 2x-proportional to 'Claimed credits' for these faulty test workunits + some bonuses for other attempts. SLinCA project is at alpha-stage: i.e. it changes every day, and errors will appear constantly... Therefore it is important for us to find and fix errors sooner, than they cause any damage or cause your computers work in idle mode. It is worth to note that most errors related with distributed computing (>80%) were found firstly by volunteers (i.e. by you). Thank you for your support!

Автор: laurenu2 Apr 23 2011, 08:37

I completed about 1500 WU's all with 'Client error' I did not get any points at all

http://dg.imp.kiev.ua/slinca/results.php?userid=1616&offset=1400&show_names=0&state=5

Most that I seen Finnish looked like they completed OK
Were they flagged bad on your end or by my clients here
All my clients are still working your WU's Should I turn them Off

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Apr 23 2011, 11:46

You are right, I'll fix it in 2-3 days.
In addition, the new invalid tasks were not accounted at this stage of re0calculation of credits.

As far as your tasks have problem with 'Could not open ZIP_local file',
please, take into account http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=3798&nowrap=true#24160.
Maybe it will help to eliminate this problem?

Thanks again!

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Apr 23 2011, 12:15

As to the problem with 'Could not open ZIP_local file'

Many users with Windows machines (XP, Vista, 7, ...) suffer from the problem,
when their workunits were successfully calculated and credits were claimed,
BUT results were not packed in archive, because of some system limits on ZIPping files in BOINC-folder.
As a result, message 'Could not open ZIP_local file' was issued and 'Client state' becomes 'Compute error'
and 'Outcome' becomes 'Client error'.

To eliminate this problem, please, take into account http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=3798&nowrap=true#24160.

We had Windows-machines running BOINC account with admin rights - so we did not notice this restriction.

Yesterday we tested this recommendation on Vista,
i.e. we imitated restricted (non-admin) rights and attempted to perform the workunits -
they generated this error.

Maybe it will help you to eliminate this problem?
We would appreciate very much, if you send us your feedback!
Many thanks to 'x3mEn' http://distributed.org.ua/forum/index.php?showtopic=5082!

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri May 13 2011, 16:30

SERVER STATUS: Server will be offline during this weekend due to the planned repair of our regional power station.
May 13, 2011, 09:15 GMT
Tonight 'dark' Friday, 13-th day of May will be 'absolutely black' after 17:00 GMT and during weekend, because of the planned repair of our regional power station. That is why our server will be shut down up to May, 16th 05:00 GMT. Of course, you could crunch during this time in offline regime, if you set the BIGGER value for 'Additional work buffer' parameter (>1 day) in 'network usage' panel in 'Preferences' window in your BOINC Manager.
We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your support!

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri May 27 2011, 17:43

SERVER STATUS: Server will be offline during this weekend due to the planned repair of our regional power station.
May 27, 2011, 15:o5 GMT
Tonight after 24:00 GMT and during weekend our server will be offline, because of the planned repair of our regional power station. That is why our server will be shut down up to May, 30th 05:00 GMT. Of course, you could crunch during this time in offline regime, if you set the BIGGER value for 'Additional work buffer' parameter (>1 day) in 'network usage' panel in 'Preferences' window in your BOINC Manager.
We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your support!

Автор: zombie67 Jun 1 2011, 05:21

I tried to crunch some tasks, hoping the problems have been resolved. But it appears that there are still problems. All 7 of 7 tasks errored out after 12.5 hours of run time. Please let us know when this is fixed, so I can return to the project.

http://dg.imp.kiev.ua/slinca/results.php?hostid=251

Here is a sample of the error:

stderr out
<core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 251
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 0.000000
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1309229958.136000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Could not open ZIP_local file.

</stderr_txt>
]]>

Автор: Conan Jun 1 2011, 12:20

This is the same error I have been getting on both my Windows machines for over a month.
I posted under the thread "Could Not Open ZIP_local File", but as I got no answer I could understand (there were answers but all were in the native language of this project and I could not read or understand the responses), I switched projects.
So i stopped using my Windows machines. My Linux machine do not get this error and are running fine and still do this project.

Conan.

Автор: Conan Jun 2 2011, 15:02

As there is still no solution as to why I can't run this project under Windows, I will be setting this project to no new work.
The project uses a lot of resources (lots of memory, long running work units, cpu time) and after a quick calculation on my Linux hosts, which can run this project, I have found a poor reward for the effort involved to finish a work unit.
Only getting 14.5 cr/h .
I will check back later to see if things have improved.

Shame as I like the idea of the project but communication is also another issue.

Thanks

Conan

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Jun 2 2011, 15:44

Dear Conan,
thank you for your care, but we are very overwhelmed now by current activities
and could not re-design the application to fix the problem - at the moment ONLY.
In any case, we are happy with your devotion and efforts to crunch our tasks -
it is especially important, because the tasks are really big - so are our scientific targets!

As to credits per hour, you can see that SLinCA@Home is trying to be
honest among other projects (please, http://boincstats.com/stats/project_cpcs.php)
and do not give more credits than other projects (this will spoil the whole image of our position among others).
Besides, we award 2-credits (per 1-2 week) to all crunchers who faced the error with ZIP-operation at Windows ONLY.

In any case, thank you for your efforts and advices!

Hoping to fix error in 2-3 months after the current turmoil at the workplace...
Best regards!

Автор: zombie67 Sep 8 2011, 02:17

Any new news?

Автор: zombie67 Oct 8 2011, 03:45

Anyone home?

Автор: Володимир Oct 9 2011, 12:22

I'm crunching several dozens of tasks on various machines with different OS - so far no problems

Автор: zombie67 Oct 21 2011, 01:00

Nope still nothing but errors on XP64:

http://dg.imp.kiev.ua/slinca/result.php?resultid=497435

Автор: zombie67 Nov 2 2011, 04:29

So what's the story? Will this ever be fixed?

Автор: vitalidze1 Nov 2 2011, 09:40

You should better write directly to Yuri. He is the one responsible for the entire project.

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Nov 2 2011, 10:17

Hi, zombie67!

thank you for your reminder! At the moment. we have not progress fro Windows platform (some users can run our tasks and many cannot run, alas).
Now we are working on redesign of the application, because some other bugs (related with time and statistics calculations) were found,
and will try to avoid differences in stability of Linux and Windows versions in the following version.
Beg your pardon for inconvinience!

Best regards!

Автор: zombie67 Dec 13 2011, 19:56

I see that the apps were updated on 12/01. Did this fix the problem with the windows app?

Автор: Szopler Dec 13 2011, 20:43

If not... try do it like in BURP project. They send with their application two additional aps - windows_zip.exe & windows_unzip.exe

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri Dec 14 2011, 09:47

It is a simple and nice idea - we will try and check its stability! Thanks!

Автор: zombie67 Feb 18 2012, 06:49

So, it's been two months now. What is the news?

Автор: zombie67 Feb 26 2012, 19:44

Hello?

Автор: nikelong Feb 26 2012, 20:42

No Yuri = no news

Автор: zombie67 Apr 21 2012, 23:17

What's the story with the project server? Can't get work for Linux machines.

Автор: Rilian Apr 21 2012, 23:32

zombie67, hi Zombie, i just emailed to Yuriy about this and also asked to tell about project status

Автор: SLinCA-Yuri May 14 2012, 08:46

Dear zombie67 and Rilian and all our supporters,

we restarted the project several days ago (after failure during minor upgrade)
and submitted more jobs now.
We plan a major upgrade in June and install it in July (after local testing) with a proper announcement.

Thank you and Rilian for your care and remind!

Best regards,
Yuri

Автор: Rilian May 14 2012, 10:07

SLinCA-Yuri, pidgeon mail goes long time in Ukraine, but i'm glad it finally reached you

Yuri, if possible, please update news on project site so everyone knows where are we going

Thank you!

Автор: huangdi May 14 2012, 17:02

Yep, it would be great to have more info. If there is significant progress, I may plug an extra quad core machine into the project.

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Автор: Володимир Mar 9 2013, 21:57

Hello and Welcome

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Автор: Rilian Mar 9 2013, 22:41

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