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Rilian
Test4Theory (Virtual LHC@home - vLHCathome)



Организаторы проекта Test4Theory@Home:

ЦЕРН (CERN) — Европейская организация по ядерным исследованиям

Официальный сайт - http://lhcathome2.cern.ch/vLHCathome/

Test4Theory - проект распределенных вычислений, в котором используется разработанная в ЦЕРН виртуальная машина CernVM под управлением приложения BOINC, чтобы привлекать вычислительные мощности волонтеров для полноценного моделирования физики частиц высоких энергий.

Test4Theory запущен в 2011 г. и использует одно из первых физических приложений, работающих на платформе LHC@home, с использованием технологии виртуальных машин. Поэтому проект Test4Theory также обозначают как Virtual LHC@home или сокращенно - vLHCathome. Результаты виртуального моделирования, проводимого посредством Test4Theory, пополняют базу данных моделирования MCPlots, чтобы физики из ЦЕРНа уточняли свои теоретические модели, которые затем проверяются во время экспериментов на Большом адронном коллайдере.

Добавить проект в BOINC-менеджере можно по ссылке - http://lhcathome2.cern.ch/vLHCathome/

Ссылка на команду Ukraine в статистике проекта Test4Theory - http://lhcathome2.cern.ch/vLHCathome/team_...y.php?teamid=15

Расчетные приложения существуют под операционные системы: Windows, Linux, Mac.
Rilian
Отправил письмо с просьбой выдать инвайт
Rilian
http://boinc01.cern.ch/test4theory/team_di...y.php?teamid=15

качаю VirtualBox

VirtualBox is a powerful x86 and AMD64/Intel64 virtualization product for enterprise as well as home use. This project employs this technology to run the complex CERN experiments in your computer independently of your OS and hardware. Thus, if you want to collaborate with this project, you first have to install the VirtualBox software, which is free. The following links download VirtualBox for Windows, Ubuntu, Mac OS X, etc:

http://boinc01.cern.ch/join-us
Rilian
ояебу рассчетным заданием является образх виртуальной машины на 240 метров smile.gif

пс: выдам инвайт кранчерам которые будут периодчески репортить об успехах/падениях ВЮ на своих машнах на англоязычном оф форуме
Death
QUOTE
выдам инвайт кранчерам которые будут периодчески репортить об успехах/падениях ВЮ на своих машнах на англоязычном оф форуме

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Rilian
laptopr:EnablingVirtualBox rilian$ sudo ./EnablingVirtualBox.sh rilian boinc_master
Checking if there is a BOINC client running...
BOINC is not runnig...
Setting up the BOINC installation ...
Enabling BOINC to work with VirtualBox...
BOINC set up correctly.
Rilian
Dear Rilian,

There is no problem in sharing the invitation code. But be sure to let them know that the project is in a testing phase, so some errors could happen while running the project. How many users are you going to invite?

Regards, Daniel

Могу дать инвайт, на вышеперечисленных условиях..
Death
подрубил на гогрид.

gladiator_maximus
А обязательно на виртуалке?
Без виртуалки не покатит?
Rilian
QUOTE(gladiator_maximus @ Mar 8 2011, 20:54) *

А обязательно на виртуалке?
Без виртуалки не покатит?

не, ВЮ - это образ виртуалки CernVM для Virtual Box (или что-то вроде того)

Проект в очень тестовой фазе, ВЮ рассчитано на 100 часов, и на сервере каждый день чето меняют и абортят задание (начисляя 0 очков)
Death
ставлю на убунте виртуалбокс. 500 мб.
посмотрим. ))
212 апдейтов.


гогрид пиршлось прибить. 100 уе кончились ((
Death
пошло.
работает.

Name test_1299570637_1597_0
Workunit 5735
Created 9 Mar 2011 8:16:50 UTC
Sent 9 Mar 2011 13:44:00 UTC
Received ---
Server state In progress
Outcome ---
Client state New
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 1**
Report deadline 23 Mar 2011 13:44:00 UTC
Run time 0.00
CPU time 0.00
Validate state Initial
Credit 0.00
Application version Test4Theory v4.05
Rilian
Death, ти в віртуалку загляні. там багі smile.gif
Death
как же я загляну в виртуалку на убунте! ))))

пусть висит щитается. там видно будет ))

Task
click for details
Show names Work unit
click for details Sent Time reported
or deadline
explain Status Run time
(sec) CPU time
(sec) Credit Application
188934 6096 9 Mar 2011 15:02:42 UTC 23 Mar 2011 15:02:42 UTC In progress --- --- --- Test4Theory v4.05
188868 6030 9 Mar 2011 14:15:15 UTC 9 Mar 2011 14:22:08 UTC Error while computing 1.04 0.00 --- Test4Theory v4.05
188866 6028 9 Mar 2011 14:53:51 UTC 9 Mar 2011 15:02:42 UTC Error while computing 0.00 0.00 --- Test4Theory v4.05
188845 6007 9 Mar 2011 14:08:20 UTC 9 Mar 2011 14:15:15 UTC Error while computing 1.01 0.00 --- Test4Theory v4.05
188844 6006 9 Mar 2011 14:45:55 UTC 9 Mar 2011 14:53:51 UTC Error while computing 1.01 0.00 --- Test4Theory v4.05
188841 6003 9 Mar 2011 14:00:45 UTC 9 Mar 2011 14:08:20 UTC Error while computing 1.01 0.00 --- Test4Theory v4.05
188825 5987 9 Mar 2011 14:30:14 UTC 9 Mar 2011 14:36:25 UTC Error while computing 1.03 0.00 --- Test4Theory v4.05
188824 5986 9 Mar 2011 14:36:25 UTC 9 Mar 2011 14:45:55 UTC Error while computing 1.10 0.00 --- Test4Theory v4.05
188796 5958 9 Mar 2011 13:53:27 UTC 9 Mar 2011 14:00:45 UTC Error while computing 1.02 0.00 --- Test4Theory v4.05
188790 5952 9 Mar 2011 14:22:08 UTC 9 Mar 2011 14:30:14 UTC Error while computing 1.03 0.00 --- Test4Theory v4.05
188573 5735 9 Mar 2011 13:44:00 UTC 9 Mar 2011 13:53:27 UTC Error while computing 1.01 0.00 --- Test4Theory v4.05

та да....
Death
щас попробую как советуют 32 бит боинк

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.12.18...pc-linux-gnu.sh
Rilian
по ходу в час 0.1 очко smile.gif
gladiator_maximus
(Rilian @ Mar 9 2011, 18:48) *

по ходу в час 0.1 очко smile.gif

мегакалорийный проект ves001.gif
Rilian
вытянул Украину на 10 место smile.gif

кому инвайт?

http://boinc01.cern.ch/test4theory/top_tea...by=total_credit
Death
не работает похоже на линух 64 бит (((((( цуко. будем думать.
Khvastov Maxim
Rilian, мне, мне инфайт! awesome.png
оффтоп, у тебя в wcg 315 Gflops swoon.gif thumbsup.gif
Rilian
New version released!
Dear all,

Today we have released the version 5.01 of the CernVMwrapper. This new version has several improvements/fixes that should provide a better user experience.

The new features are:

1.- The credit system is completely based on BOINC mechanisms, not using any more the the trickle messages.
2.- The running time for obtaining credit has been reduce to 12 hours, so your progress bar should be updated faster.
3.- The time to complete the WU has been extended to one month, so the WU should not be running in high priority mode, unless you have a really old machine.
4.- The VM->poll() function has been removed, providing a better user experience by not polling each 5 seconds the Virtual Machine (additionally this change should fix some problems with some users).
5.- The previous versions did not cleanly removed the VM when canceling the WU through BOINC manager. This new version has fixed this bug too.

Please, wait until the running WU finishes, or if you are experiencing problems, cancel the WU, remove the BOINC_VM by hand using VirtualBox Manager, and ask for new work in BOINC.

If you have any problems, let us know.

Regards,

The team. 30 Mar 2011 13:40:08 UTC · Comment

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кому инвайте?
Death
да, 5.01 работает.

Всего очков 791

до 1к немного осталось ))
Rilian
Mon Apr 18 11:39:07 2011 Test4Theory@Home Message from server: Test4Theory needs 326.59MB more disk space. You currently have 3488.11 MB available and it needs 3814.70 MB.
Peret
А инвайты у кого-нибудь остались? Поделитесь, интересно чтож там за зверь такой.


UPD Инвайт получил.
спасибо
Rilian
Нікто кроме КоДаКа не хочет помогать тестировать теорию LHC?

http://boinc01.cern.ch/test4theory/team_me...y=expavg_credit

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x3mEn
Rilian, дай інвайт, попробую.
Rilian
QUOTE(x3mEn @ Jul 30 2011, 20:53) *

Rilian, дай інвайт, попробую.

попробуй
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x3mEn
Test4Theory goes BETA today !!
We are very happy to announce our advance from Alpha-test level to Beta.

This means no more need for an invitation code to join the project, so please tell your friends that we are now open to everyone. We aim to accept about 1000 active Beta testers, with about 2000 PC's running.

During the Beta period we will be introducing a graphic display to show volunteers what is happening with the CERN jobs that their Virtual Machine is running.

We are also working on a longer-term enhancement to allow volunteers to get more directly engaged with the science - stay tuned!

Congratulations and thanks to all our Alpha testers for your patience and help, and welcome to Beta...

З.І.: Я, мабуть, був останнім, хто скористався інвайтом.
x3mEn
Нібуя не получається на Win7.
І я навіть знаю від чого. Дивіться лог:
ERROR: storageattach BOINC_VM --storagectl "IDE Controller" --port 0 --device 0 --type hdd --medium "C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots\5/cernvm.vmdk"
Нахомутали зі слешами.
Rilian
х3 мєн, лучше на оф форуме пиши. Для того бета и нужна, чтобы собирать ошибки.

я на оф форуме нафлудил ошибками уже несколько десятков сообщений
x3mEn
Написав...
x3mEn
І що?
я вже вбив 5 wall clock днів і ще десь 1 CPU день, намагаючись хоч щось порахувати.
Проект взагалі стрьомний. Розраховано, мабуть, на те, що ти запустиш VM і не дихатимеш.
Rilian
x3mEn, там при установке нужно права на виртуалку раздать. ты сделал?
x3mEn
(Rilian @ Aug 8 2011, 14:32) *

x3mEn, там при установке нужно права на виртуалку раздать. ты сделал?

я одмін і під одміном працюю.
треба ще якісь права?
Rilian
QUOTE(x3mEn @ Aug 8 2011, 14:37) *

QUOTE(Rilian @ Aug 8 2011, 14:32) *

x3mEn, там при установке нужно права на виртуалку раздать. ты сделал?

я одмін і під одміном працюю.
треба ще якісь права?


под маком например нужно раздать права boinc юзеру и боинк_админу чтобы запускать/останавливать виртуальную машину

насколько я помню, в виндовс боинк также при установке создает себе юзеров. раздай им права на запуск

в топике тебе пишут, что потеряна связь ВМ с инетом

в любом случае, пришли все логи на оф форум, там очень быстро (по сравнению с другими проектами) девелоперы разбираются.

если нужно, запости отдельный топик
re_SET
Проект LHC@home 2.0 открывается для всех желающих

На сайте ЦЕРНа появилось сообщение, что проект добровольных вычислений LHC@home 2.0 открывается для всех желающих. Как и другие проекты добровольных вычислений, LHC@home 2.0 позволяет использовать свободное машинное время добровольцев для нужд ресурсоемких научных вычислений. В данном случае речь идет о моделировании событий столкновения протонов на Большом адронном коллайдере — именно через сравнение данных с результатами моделирования физики могут узнать о том, что в реальных данных есть какие-то новые частицы или процессы. Текущий проект в рамках LHC@home 2.0 называется Test4Theory и позволяет моделировать разнообразные процессы при тех или иных значениях параметров теории. Инструкции, как подключиться к проекту, выложены на сайте LHC@home.

Источник: elementy.ru
x3mEn
Rilian, о! мене почули:
Dear x3mEn,

We have released a new version today, that has several improvements and fixes for Windows platforms. Would you mind to upgrade the wrapper, and let us know if you are still having this problems?

Regards,

Daniel

Знову 220 метрів качати? ffuuuuu.png
Death
бугага.

не первый раз блин ))00
x3mEn
На щастя оновили тільки врапер до версії 6.03, а це лише 400К.
Ну що ж, спробуємо...
x3mEn
PROBLEM WITH JOB SUPPLY FROM CERN
WE HAVE A PROBLEM. WE BELIEVE SOME "ROGUE" SYSTEMS ARE SUCKING OUR QUEUES DRY AND THUS OVERLOADING THE SUPPLY OF JOBS TO EVERYONE ELSE.

Please be patient - we will try and fix this as soon as possible.

LHC@home 2.0 team

Сакери хрєнові... В мене теж почався want_getJobOutputDir
Rilian
We are flabbergasted! Interest in LHC@home 2.0 has exceeded our wildest dreams, following the huge press coverage that a brief mention in a CERN press release got us. Thank you, everyone! Yesterday we reached nearly 8000 registered volunteers, which pushed the number of computers simultaneously connected to our server well over 1000. To give you an idea, with just 100 simultaneous connections we had already reached the equivalent of all the computing power at CERN that Test4Theory project physicists have access to. So getting more than 10x that in just a few days boggled our minds - and also bogged down our servers! Since yesterday, we had to put further eager participants on hold while we sort out how to handle this huge amount of support. You can read a more detailed technical summary of the problems we encountered - and how we are fixing them - here.

We're going to open gradually to more participants in the near future. We'll then stabilize for a while before further increases. This was announced as a beta-test to explore the limitations of our system, and we certainly succeeded in doing that, thanks to your support. Particular thanks to all our experienced BOINC users in the forums who have been patiently explaining to newcomers that this sort of thing is normal in a beta-test. And hats off to our technical crew (which is basically just Artem and Anton in Geneva and Daniel in Madrid) who have been working literally around the clock to get the system running smoothly again. In the meantime, if you are new to the field of volunteer computing, we warmly encourage you to browse here some of the many other exciting science projects you can contribute to, using the same BOINC platform that LHC@home is running on. And if you'd like to be kept up to date on LHC@home 2.0 progress, so you can be first in line when we are ready to accept more volunteers, just subscribe to the RSS feed for this News list. The LHC@home 2.0 Team


Dear All, Following unexpected posts on major news sites on 11th of August we have started seeing the exponential growth of number of connected virtual machines. Every minute several new virtual machines were popped up. Just to give you a rough idea, before, when we were only on major tech blogs and news sites the shape of the curve which was showing the number of active virtual machines looked like this, after BBC and MSNBC wrote about LHC@home the shape of the curve in no time became like this. Some of connected virtual machines apparently had problems with the application software (causes are still under investigation), and so they were getting jobs from our queues, were failing to run them, were reporting them back and were asking for more jobs. CernVM Co-Pilot (the framework that we use to distribute jobs from CERN into Virtual Machines and gather the results back) normally takes about a couple of seconds to generate a job request in a Virtual Machine, send it over to the server, pick the waiting job from the queue, prepare it, send it for execution, and start running it in the Virtual Machine. So, as you can imagine, with about 1000 active virtual machines, out of which several were 'rogue' and were basically doing nothing but draining the job server, our queues became empty very fast. We quickly ended up with queues, which were draining faster than our scripts could possibly feed them. Normally, this would not have not been a problem at all: Virtual Machines were not supposed to jump on servers all at once when the queues were empty. There is a built-in mechanism which would make them exponentially back off, precisely for the reason of not overloading our servers. Everything would have been good, if we did not have a bug which prevented our exponential back off algorithm from working, and instead turned all our virtual machines into cannons which were firing at our server hundreds of requests in a second. Because of that we had to turn our servers down and empty the BOINC server queue (has nothing to do with the Co-Pilot queue). This meant that BOINC clients would not pop up new Virtual Machines anymore. It took a while to figure the problem out, the updated code was pushed into CernVM File System repository about 2AM on August 12th (GMT +2), and the server was configured to prevent agents with the buggy code from connecting at about 10 AM on August 12th (because the bug is still there and they would still be flooding us). We put an announcement on the forums asking users to reboot (to make sure they pick up the updated code). After that the system started working again. Currently there are about 300 concurrently active machines. These are the users who got virtual machines before we emptied BOINC server queue and who rebooted them after our announcement. We are currently planning to slowly start adding new Work Units to BOINC server queue (100 at a time), which means that virtual machines should start to pop up on registered users' machines soon. Our initial goal was to recruit about 2,000 volunteers (remember, we just wanted to do a Beta test) so that several hundreds of them would be active all the time. We carried out alpha tests with about 300 registered volunteers (which would peak up to 100 online volunteers). As you will soon read in the other, more general announcement that we are about to publish on our main page, we are already very close to having 8,000 registered volunteers. We will try to slowly ramp that number up to 10,000 after which we plan to stabilize for a while before future increases. We would like to ask everyone to remember that we are still in Beta testing phase. Which means that outages like this are likely to happen again, in fact we do expect them to happen again. To discover and eliminate bugs we together with you are intentionally pushing the system well beyond its limits. Last but not least, we would like to thank you all of you again, for your enthusiasm, help, patience and understanding!!! Artem, on behalf of LHC@home 2.0 Team.
gladiator_maximus
Хотел подключиться, не получилось.
Вот что пишет: Создание учетной записи в данный момент запрещено. Пожалуйста, попробуйте ещё раз немного позднее.
gladiator_maximus
А кому надо написать,чтобы выдали инвайт?
x3mEn
gladiator_maximus, ти коли спробуєш, не захочеш )
gladiator_maximus
x3mEn,
вначале надо попробовать, а там видно будет.
Rilian
x3mEn, какраз сегодня вышла версия 6.05

у меня все пашет
x3mEn
Rilian, я вже небрав 1К, поки не цікаво.
найбільш геморний проект, який я тільки бачив.
Володимир
А справді якшо я на Мак хочу спробувати то де інвайти просити?
Rilian
An article entitled Virtual atom smasher in LHC@Home 2.0 appeared recently in International Science Grid This Week (iSGTW).

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“I think we can get 10,000 or maybe more [people participating in Test4Theory]. This would make a real difference to the resources available to theoretical physicists,” said Peter Skands, the theoretical physicist who, together with the developers of LHC@home 2.0, came up with the idea for Test4Theory about a year ago.
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